Hardcoded app order value overwrites user-set app order

[SimJoSt]

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Steps to reproduce

1. Have Spreed/Talk installed
2. Navigate to cloud.example.com/settings/user/theming#:~:text=Navigation%20bar%20settings
3. Change navigation app order for the Spreed app (should be at the top by default)
4. Reload page

Expected behaviour

The Talk app should stay at the position it has been reordered to.

Actual behaviour

The Talk app moves back to the top of the order.

Checking the database, the changed order was correctly saved.
Excerpt of configvalue from the oc_preferences table for my user with the appid = core and configkey = apporder:

{
  "dashboard": { "order": 0, "app": "dashboard" },
  "announcementcenter": { "order": 1, "app": "announcementcenter" },
  "activity": { "order": 2, "app": "activity" },
  "thesearchpage": { "order": 3, "app": "thesearchpage" },
  "spreed": { "order": 4, "app": "spreed" },
  "files": { "order": 5, "app": "files" },
  ...
}

However, during load the Talk app is forcing its own order value, that overwrites the order value from the settings.
The first time the order value was hardcoded into the Talk app was in v6.0.0: 576ecfc
At that time, the value was 3.

In September 2025, the value was changed to -5, first seen in v22.0.0: ec1723c

At roughly the same time, September 2025, a change was merged into Nextcloud v32.0.0, to resolve the following issue: Talk can not be set as default app on Nextcloud 28 using the app order #11134
While the PR by @nickvergessen was merged earlier in 2025, it only made its way into public versions lager: fix(navigation): Fix default app entry registered as closure #52434

My theory is, that some or all of these changes made the issue appear.
Either nobody ever noticed it, with order position 3 being possibly reasonable default and only moving to -5 made the issue glaringly obvious.
Or a combination of the changes in September 2025 in the server and spreed repositories created the issues together.

This seems to be the cause of at least some reports in nextcloud/server#55266 (comment).

Talk app

Talk app version: 22.0.7

Server configuration

Operating system: Debian

Web server: Apache

Database: Maria

PHP version: 8.3.28

Nextcloud Version: 32.0.3

List of activated apps:

Details

Enabled:
  - activity: 5.0.0-dev.0
  - admin_audit: 1.22.0
  - announcementcenter: 7.2.2
  - app_api: 32.0.0
  - bruteforcesettings: 5.0.0-dev.0
  - calendar: 6.1.3
  - camerarawpreviews: 0.8.8
  - checksum: 2.0.3
  - circles: 32.0.0
  - cloud_federation_api: 1.16.0
  - collectives: 3.4.0
  - comments: 1.22.0
  - contacts: 8.1.2
  - cospend: 3.1.6
  - dashboard: 7.12.0
  - data_request: 4.0.0
  - dav: 1.34.2
  - deck: 1.16.3
  - drawio: 3.1.2
  - event_update_notification: 2.7.0
  - federatedfilesharing: 1.22.0
  - federation: 1.22.0
  - files: 2.4.0
  - files_accesscontrol: 3.0.2
  - files_downloadlimit: 5.0.0-dev.0
  - files_linkeditor: 1.1.23
  - files_pdfviewer: 5.0.0-dev.0
  - files_reminders: 1.5.0
  - files_sharing: 1.24.1
  - files_trashbin: 1.22.0
  - files_versions: 1.25.0
  - forms: 5.2.3
  - groupfolders: 20.1.6
  - impersonate: 3.0.0
  - integration_discourse: 3.1.0
  - integration_google: 4.3.0
  - integration_mattermost: 2.1.1
  - issuetemplate: 0.7.0
  - keeweb: 0.6.22
  - logreader: 5.0.0-dev.0
  - lookup_server_connector: 1.20.0
  - mail: 5.6.5
  - metadata: 0.23.0
  - nextcloud_announcements: 4.0.0-dev.0
  - notes: 4.12.4
  - notifications: 5.0.0-dev.0
  - notify_push: 1.2.1
  - oauth2: 1.20.0
  - password_policy: 4.0.0-dev.0
  - passwords: 2025.12.21
  - passwords_handbook: 2025.12.21
  - photos: 5.0.0-dev.1
  - polls: 8.6.2
  - privacy: 4.0.0-dev.0
  - profile: 1.1.0
  - provisioning_api: 1.22.0
  - quota_warning: 1.22.0
  - recommendations: 5.0.0-dev.0
  - registration: 2.8.0
  - related_resources: 3.0.0-dev.0
  - richdocuments: 9.0.2
  - serverinfo: 4.0.0-dev.0
  - settings: 1.15.1
  - sharebymail: 1.22.0
  - spreed: 22.0.7
  - suspicious_login: 10.0.0-dev.0
  - tasks: 0.17.1
  - text: 6.0.1
  - theming: 2.7.0
  - theming_customcss: 1.19.0
  - thesearchpage: 2.0.1
  - twofactor_admin: 4.9.0
  - twofactor_backupcodes: 1.21.0
  - twofactor_email: 2.8.3
  - twofactor_nextcloud_notification: 6.0.0-dev.0
  - twofactor_totp: 14.0.0
  - twofactor_webauthn: 2.4.1
  - updatenotification: 1.22.0
  - user_migration: 9.0.0
  - user_retention: 1.15.0
  - user_usage_report: 3.0.0
  - viewer: 5.0.0-dev.0
  - weather_status: 1.12.0
  - welcome: 1.4.0
  - workflowengine: 2.14.0
Disabled:
  - audioplayer: 3.7.0 (installed 3.7.0)
  - bookmarks: 16.0.1 (installed 16.0.1)
  - contactsinteraction: 1.13.1 (installed 1.9.0)
  - encryption: 2.20.0 (installed 2.16.0)
  - external: 7.0.0 (installed 7.0.0)
  - files_external: 1.24.0 (installed 1.19.0)
  - files_photospheres: 1.32.0 (installed 1.32.0)
  - firstrunwizard: 5.0.0-dev.0 (installed 4.0.0)
  - google_synchronization: 4.1.0 (installed 4.1.0)
  - googledocsredirect: 1.0.10 (installed 1.0.10)
  - group_everyone: 0.1.18 (installed 0.1.18)
  - integration_github: 3.2.2 (installed 3.2.2)
  - maps: 1.6.0 (installed 1.6.0)
  - sentry: 8.16.12 (installed 8.16.12)
  - sharelisting: 1.3.0 (installed 1.3.0)
  - support: 4.0.0-dev.0 (installed 1.10.0)
  - survey_client: 4.0.0-dev.0 (installed 2.0.0)
  - systemtags: 1.22.0 (installed 1.17.0)
  - user_ldap: 1.23.0 (installed 1.17.0)
  - user_status: 1.12.0 (installed 1.8.1)
  - webhook_listeners: 1.3.0 (installed 1.1.0-dev)

Nextcloud configuration:

Details

{
    "system": {
        "instanceid": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
        "passwordsalt": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
        "secret": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
        "trusted_domains": [
            "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
            "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
            "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
            "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***"
        ],
        "trusted_proxies": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
        "version": "32.0.3.2",
        "dbtype": "mysql",
        "dbname": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
        "dbhost": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
        "dbuser": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
        "dbpassword": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
        "installed": true,
        "forcessl": true,
        "logtimezone": "Europe\/Berlin",
        "log_rotate_size": 104857600,
        "overwrite.cli.url": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
        "skeletondirectory": "",
        "auth.bruteforce.protection.enabled": true,
        "check_for_working_webdav": true,
        "maintenance": false,
        "loglevel": 0,
        "debug": false,
        "apps_paths": [
            {
                "path": "\/var\/www\/html\/apps",
                "url": "\/apps",
                "writable": false
            },
            {
                "path": "\/var\/www\/html\/custom_apps",
                "url": "\/custom_apps",
                "writable": true
            }
        ],
        "filelocking.enabled": true,
        "filelocking.ttl": 3600,
        "filelocking.debug": false,
        "updater.release.channel": "stable",
        "mysql.utf8mb4": true,
        "theme": "",
        "sentry.dsn": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
        "sentry.public-dsn": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
        "sentry.csp-report-url": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
        "trashbin_retention_obligation": "auto,30",
        "versions_retention_obligation": "auto,180",
        "activity_expire_days": 180,
        "sentry.minimum.log.level": 3,
        "enabledPreviewProviders": [
            "OC\\Preview\\BMP",
            "OC\\Preview\\GIF",
            "OC\\Preview\\HEIC",
            "OC\\Preview\\JPEG",
            "OC\\Preview\\Krita",
            "OC\\Preview\\MarkDown",
            "OC\\Preview\\MP3",
            "OC\\Preview\\OpenDocument",
            "OC\\Preview\\PNG",
            "OC\\Preview\\TXT",
            "OC\\Preview\\XBitmap",
            "OC\\Preview\\Movie",
            "OC\\Preview\\Imaginary"
        ],
        "preview_format": "webp",
        "encryption.legacy_format_support": false,
        "htaccess.RewriteBase": "\/",
        "memcache.local": "\\OC\\Memcache\\APCu",
        "memcache.distributed": "\\OC\\Memcache\\Redis",
        "memcache.locking": "\\OC\\Memcache\\Redis",
        "overwriteprotocol": "https",
        "mail_from_address": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
        "mail_domain": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
        "redis": {
            "host": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
            "password": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
            "port": 6379
        },
        "default_phone_region": "DE",
        "data-fingerprint": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
        "maintenance_window_start": 1,
        "preview_imaginary_url": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
        "config_is_read_only": false,
        "memories.exiftool": "\/var\/www\/html\/custom_apps\/memories\/bin-ext\/exiftool-amd64-glibc",
        "memories.vod.path": "\/var\/www\/html\/custom_apps\/memories\/bin-ext\/go-vod-amd64",
        "memories.vod.ffmpeg": "\/usr\/bin\/ffmpeg",
        "memories.vod.ffprobe": "\/usr\/bin\/ffprobe",
        "session_lifetime": 86400,
        "remember_login_cookie_lifetime": 1296000,
        "session_keepalive": true,
        "enable_email": false,
        "defaultapp": "dashboard,activity",
        "reference_opengraph": false,
        "forbidden_filename_characters": [
            "\\",
            "\/"
        ],
        "forbidden_filename_extensions": [
            ".filepart",
            ".part"
        ],
        "mail_smtpmode": "smtp",
        "mail_smtphost": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
        "mail_smtpport": "465",
        "mail_smtpsecure": "ssl",
        "mail_smtpauth": true,
        "mail_smtpauthtype": "LOGIN",
        "mail_smtpname": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
        "mail_smtptimeout": 10,
        "mail_smtppassword": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***"
    }
}

[nickvergessen]

This works totally fine here:

Can you reproduce the issue with an "empty" testing instance? Or only your grown existing one?
Did you try using the "Reset default app order" button at the end of the screen and change it again afterwards?

[SimJoSt]

Thanks for the reply.
The "Reset default app order" button didn't solve the issue.
However, you are right, on a "cleaner" instance with less history, apps, and configuration, the issue does not appear.

Now It is about finding out which configuration value, database setting, or other app is interfering with the proper behaviour.
Any advice on how to approach debugging it?
What is most likely to interfere with the navigation builder?

[nickvergessen]

What is most likely to interfere with the navigation builder?

Apps and cache, together with "defaultapp": "dashboard,activity", from your config.php

[BloodyIron]

I'm not able to change app order myself, on NC 32.0.3, using the Appearance section. :(

[SimJoSt]

It looks like that @schiessle @arnowelzel @tvieten also have problems specifically with Talk regarding app order issues: nextcloud/server#55266
Maybe we can learn something about the cause of the issue, when we compare systems configurations.

[schiessle]

@SimJoSt i'm not sure if my issue is really Talk related. But I'm happy to provide any information which might be helpful. Anything special you have in mind?

[arnowelzel]

Hope to help... my environment:

Nextcloud config

 'xxxx',
  'passwordsalt' => 'xxxx',
  'secret' => 'xxxx',
  'trusted_domains' => 
  array (
    0 => 'xxxx',
  ),
  'datadirectory' => '/mnt/nextcloud-data',
  'skeletondirectory' => '',
  'overwrite.cli.url' => 'xxxx',
  'dbtype' => 'mysql',
  'version' => '32.0.3.2',
  'installed' => true,
  'htaccess.RewriteBase' => '/',
  'maintenance' => false,
  'dbname' => 'xxxx',
  'dbhost' => 'xxxx',
  'dbuser' => 'xxxx',
  'dbpassword' => 'xxxx',
  'dbpersistent' => true,
  'memcache.local' => '\\OC\\Memcache\\APCu',
  'memcache.distributed' => '\\OC\\Memcache\\Redis',
  'filelocking.enabled' => true,
  'memcache.locking' => '\\OC\\Memcache\\Redis',
  'redis' => 
  array (
    'host' => '/run/redis/redis-server.sock',
    'port' => 0,
    'dbindex' => 0,
  ),
  'knowledgebaseenabled' => false,
  'theme' => '',
  'simpleSignUpLink.shown' => false,
  'loglevel' => 2,
  'log_authfailip' => true,
  'mysql.utf8mb4' => true,
  'mail_from_address' => 'xxxx',
  'mail_domain' => 'xxxx',
  'mail_smtpmode' => 'sendmail',
  'mail_smtphost' => 'xxxx',
  'mail_smtpsecure' => 'ssl',
  'mail_smtpname' => 'xxxx',
  'mail_smtppassword' => 'xxxx',
  'updater.release.channel' => 'stable',
  'trashbin_retention_obligation' => 'auto, 30',
  'versions_retention_obligation' => 'auto, 180',
  'has_rebuilt_cache' => true,
  'default_language' => 'de',
  'default_phone_region' => 'DE',
  'check_data_directory_permissions' => false,
  'log_rotate_size' => 10485760,
  'profile.enabled' => false,
  'preview_max_x' => 1920,
  'preview_max_y' => 1920,
  'mail_sendmailmode' => 'smtp',
  'mail_smtpauth' => true,
  'mail_smtpport' => '465',
  'trusted_proxies' => 
  array (
    0 => 'xxxx',
    1 => 'xxxx',
    2 => '127.0.0.1',
    3 => '::1',
  ),
  'auth.bruteforce.protection.enabled' => true,
  'ratelimit.protection.enabled' => true,
  'reference_opengraph' => false,
  'integrity.check.disabled' => false,
  'defaultapp' => 'files',
  'maintenance_window_start' => 22,
  'apps_paths' => 
  array (
    0 => 
    array (
      'path' => '/var/www/nextcloud/apps',
      'url' => '/apps',
      'writable' => true,
    ),
  ),
  'app_install_overwrite' => 
  array (
  ),
  'forbidden_filename_characters' => 
  array (
    0 => '\\',
    1 => '/',
  ),
  'forbidden_filename_extensions' => 
  array (
    0 => '.filepart',
    1 => '.part',
  ),
  'memories.db.triggers.fcu' => true,
  'memories.exiftool' => '/var/www/nextcloud/apps/memories/bin-ext/exiftool-amd64-glibc',
  'memories.vod.path' => '/var/www/nextcloud/apps/memories/bin-ext/go-vod-amd64',
  'memories.index.path.blacklist' => 'xxxx',
  'enabledPreviewProviders' => 
  array (
    0 => 'OC\\Preview\\PNG',
    1 => 'OC\\Preview\\JPEG',
    2 => 'OC\\Preview\\GIF',
    3 => 'OC\\Preview\\HEIC',
    4 => 'OC\\Preview\\BMP',
    5 => 'OC\\Preview\\XBitmap',
    6 => 'OC\\Preview\\MP3',
    7 => 'OC\\Preview\\TXT',
    8 => 'OC\\Preview\\MarkDown',
    9 => 'OC\\Preview\\Movie',
    10 => 'OC\\Preview\\MKV',
    11 => 'OC\\Preview\\MP4',
    12 => 'OC\\Preview\\AVI',
    13 => 'OC\\Preview\\Image',
    14 => 'OC\\Preview\\Imaginary',
  ),
  'dbtableprefix' => 'oc_',
  'memories.gis_type' => 1,
  'memories.vod.ffmpeg' => '/usr/bin/ffmpeg',
  'memories.vod.ffprobe' => '/usr/bin/ffprobe',
  'enable_previews' => true,
  'preview_imaginary_url' => 'http://127.0.0.1:9000',
);

App list

Enabled:
  - activity: 5.0.0-dev.0
  - admin_audit: 1.22.0
  - app_api: 32.0.0
  - bookmarks: 16.0.1
  - bruteforcesettings: 5.0.0-dev.0
  - calendar: 6.1.5
  - circles: 32.0.0
  - cloud_federation_api: 1.16.0
  - collectives: 3.5.0
  - comments: 1.22.0
  - contacts: 8.2.1
  - contactsinteraction: 1.13.1
  - dav: 1.34.2
  - dav_push: 1.0.0
  - deck: 1.16.3
  - drawio: 3.1.2
  - external: 7.0.0
  - federatedfilesharing: 1.22.0
  - federation: 1.22.0
  - files: 2.4.0
  - files_downloadlimit: 5.0.0-dev.0
  - files_pdfviewer: 5.0.0-dev.0
  - files_reminders: 1.5.0
  - files_sharing: 1.24.1
  - files_trashbin: 1.22.0
  - files_versions: 1.25.0
  - flow_notifications: 3.0.0
  - impersonate: 3.0.1
  - logcleaner: 1.2.3
  - logreader: 5.0.0-dev.0
  - lookup_server_connector: 1.20.0
  - memories: 7.7.0
  - nextcloud_announcements: 4.0.0-dev.0
  - notes: 4.12.4
  - notifications: 5.0.0-dev.0
  - notify_push: 1.3.0
  - oauth2: 1.20.0
  - password_policy: 4.0.0-dev.0
  - photos: 5.0.0-dev.1
  - previewgenerator: 5.11.0
  - privacy: 4.0.0-dev.0
  - profile: 1.1.0
  - provisioning_api: 1.22.0
  - richdocuments: 9.0.2
  - serverinfo: 4.0.0-dev.0
  - settings: 1.15.1
  - sharebymail: 1.22.0
  - spreed: 22.0.8
  - support: 4.0.0-dev.0
  - survey_client: 4.0.0-dev.0
  - systemtags: 1.22.0
  - text: 6.0.1
  - theming: 2.7.0
  - theming_customcss: 1.19.0
  - twofactor_backupcodes: 1.21.0
  - twofactor_webauthn: 2.4.1
  - updatenotification: 1.22.0
  - viewer: 5.0.0-dev.0
  - webhook_listeners: 1.3.0
  - whiteboard: 1.5.2
  - workflowengine: 2.14.0
Disabled:
  - dashboard: 7.12.0 (installed 7.8.0)
  - dicomviewer: 2.3.1 (installed 2.3.1)
  - encryption: 2.20.0 (installed 2.13.0)
  - files_external: 1.24.1 (installed 1.19.0)
  - firstrunwizard: 5.0.0-dev.0 (installed 5.0.0-dev.0)
  - jsloader: 2.0.0 (installed 2.0.0)
  - recommendations: 5.0.0-dev.0 (installed 0.4.0)
  - related_resources: 3.0.0-dev.0 (installed 1.1.0-alpha1)
  - suspicious_login: 10.0.0-dev.0
  - twofactor_nextcloud_notification: 6.0.0-dev.0
  - twofactor_totp: 14.0.0
  - user_ldap: 1.23.0
  - user_status: 1.12.0 (installed 1.5.0)
  - weather_status: 1.12.0 (installed 1.3.0)

Edit: updated my comment to use the template.

[SimJoSt]

Nextcloud config

Command used: occ config:list system
(redacted additional config values)

{
    "system": {
        "instanceid": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
        "passwordsalt": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
        "secret": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
        "trusted_domains": [
            "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
            "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
            "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
            "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***"
        ],
        "trusted_proxies": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
        "version": "32.0.3.2",
        "dbtype": "mysql",
        "dbname": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
        "dbhost": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
        "dbuser": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
        "dbpassword": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
        "installed": true,
        "forcessl": true,
        "logtimezone": "Europe\/Berlin",
        "log_rotate_size": 104857600,
        "overwrite.cli.url": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
        "skeletondirectory": "",
        "auth.bruteforce.protection.enabled": true,
        "check_for_working_webdav": true,
        "maintenance": false,
        "loglevel": 0,
        "debug": false,
        "apps_paths": [
            {
                "path": "\/var\/www\/html\/apps",
                "url": "\/apps",
                "writable": false
            },
            {
                "path": "\/var\/www\/html\/custom_apps",
                "url": "\/custom_apps",
                "writable": true
            }
        ],
        "filelocking.enabled": true,
        "filelocking.ttl": 3600,
        "filelocking.debug": false,
        "updater.release.channel": "stable",
        "mysql.utf8mb4": true,
        "theme": "",
        "sentry.dsn": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
        "sentry.public-dsn": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
        "sentry.csp-report-url": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
        "app_install_overwrite": {
            "0": "keeweb",
            "2": "mindmap_app",
            "3": "piwik",
            "4": "files_texteditor",
            "5": "issuetemplate"
        },
        "trashbin_retention_obligation": "auto,30",
        "versions_retention_obligation": "auto,180",
        "activity_expire_days": 180,
        "sentry.minimum.log.level": 3,
        "enabledPreviewProviders": [
            "OC\\Preview\\BMP",
            "OC\\Preview\\GIF",
            "OC\\Preview\\HEIC",
            "OC\\Preview\\JPEG",
            "OC\\Preview\\Krita",
            "OC\\Preview\\MarkDown",
            "OC\\Preview\\MP3",
            "OC\\Preview\\OpenDocument",
            "OC\\Preview\\PNG",
            "OC\\Preview\\TXT",
            "OC\\Preview\\XBitmap",
            "OC\\Preview\\Movie",
            "OC\\Preview\\Imaginary"
        ],
        "preview_format": "webp",
        "encryption.legacy_format_support": false,
        "htaccess.RewriteBase": "\/",
        "memcache.local": "\\OC\\Memcache\\APCu",
        "memcache.distributed": "\\OC\\Memcache\\Redis",
        "memcache.locking": "\\OC\\Memcache\\Redis",
        "overwriteprotocol": "https",
        "mail_from_address": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
        "mail_domain": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
        "redis": {
            "host": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
            "password": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
            "port": 6379
        },
        "default_phone_region": "DE",
        "data-fingerprint": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***"",
        "maintenance_window_start": 1,
        "preview_imaginary_url": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
        "config_is_read_only": false,
        "memories.exiftool": "\/var\/www\/html\/custom_apps\/memories\/bin-ext\/exiftool-amd64-glibc",
        "memories.vod.path": "\/var\/www\/html\/custom_apps\/memories\/bin-ext\/go-vod-amd64",
        "memories.vod.ffmpeg": "\/usr\/bin\/ffmpeg",
        "memories.vod.ffprobe": "\/usr\/bin\/ffprobe",
        "session_lifetime": 86400,
        "remember_login_cookie_lifetime": 1296000,
        "session_keepalive": true,
        "enable_email": false,
        "defaultapp": "dashboard,files",
        "reference_opengraph": false,
        "forbidden_filename_characters": [
            "\\",
            "\/"
        ],
        "forbidden_filename_extensions": [
            ".filepart",
            ".part"
        ],
        "mail_smtpmode": "smtp",
        "mail_smtphost": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
        "mail_smtpport": "465",
        "mail_smtpsecure": "ssl",
        "mail_smtpauth": true,
        "mail_smtpauthtype": "LOGIN",
        "mail_smtpname": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
        "mail_smtptimeout": 10,
        "mail_smtppassword": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***"
    }
}

App list

Command used: occ app:list

Enabled:
  - activity: 5.0.0-dev.0
  - admin_audit: 1.22.0
  - announcementcenter: 7.3.0
  - app_api: 32.0.0
  - bruteforcesettings: 5.0.0-dev.0
  - calendar: 6.1.4
  - camerarawpreviews: 0.8.8
  - checksum: 2.0.3
  - circles: 32.0.0
  - cloud_federation_api: 1.16.0
  - collectives: 3.5.0
  - comments: 1.22.0
  - contacts: 8.2.1
  - cospend: 3.2.0
  - dashboard: 7.12.0
  - data_request: 4.0.0
  - dav: 1.34.2
  - deck: 1.16.3
  - drawio: 3.1.2
  - event_update_notification: 2.7.0
  - federatedfilesharing: 1.22.0
  - federation: 1.22.0
  - files: 2.4.0
  - files_accesscontrol: 3.0.2
  - files_downloadlimit: 5.0.0-dev.0
  - files_linkeditor: 1.1.23
  - files_pdfviewer: 5.0.0-dev.0
  - files_reminders: 1.5.0
  - files_sharing: 1.24.1
  - files_trashbin: 1.22.0
  - files_versions: 1.25.0
  - forms: 5.2.3
  - groupfolders: 20.1.7
  - impersonate: 3.0.1
  - integration_discourse: 3.1.0
  - integration_google: 4.3.0
  - integration_mattermost: 2.1.1
  - keeweb: 0.6.22
  - logreader: 5.0.0-dev.0
  - lookup_server_connector: 1.20.0
  - mail: 5.6.7
  - metadata: 0.23.0
  - nextcloud_announcements: 4.0.0-dev.0
  - notes: 4.12.4
  - notifications: 5.0.0-dev.0
  - notify_push: 1.2.1
  - oauth2: 1.20.0
  - password_policy: 4.0.0-dev.0
  - passwords: 2025.12.21
  - passwords_handbook: 2025.12.21
  - photos: 5.0.0-dev.1
  - polls: 8.6.2
  - privacy: 4.0.0-dev.0
  - profile: 1.1.0
  - provisioning_api: 1.22.0
  - quota_warning: 1.22.0
  - recommendations: 5.0.0-dev.0
  - registration: 2.8.0
  - related_resources: 3.0.0-dev.0
  - richdocuments: 9.0.2
  - serverinfo: 4.0.0-dev.0
  - settings: 1.15.1
  - sharebymail: 1.22.0
  - spreed: 22.0.8
  - suspicious_login: 10.0.0-dev.0
  - tasks: 0.17.1
  - text: 6.0.1
  - theming: 2.7.0
  - theming_customcss: 1.19.0
  - thesearchpage: 2.0.6
  - twofactor_admin: 4.9.0
  - twofactor_backupcodes: 1.21.0
  - twofactor_email: 2.8.3
  - twofactor_nextcloud_notification: 6.0.0-dev.0
  - twofactor_totp: 14.0.0
  - twofactor_webauthn: 2.4.1
  - updatenotification: 1.22.0
  - user_migration: 9.0.0
  - user_retention: 1.15.0
  - user_usage_report: 3.0.0
  - viewer: 5.0.0-dev.0
  - weather_status: 1.12.0
  - welcome: 1.4.0
  - workflowengine: 2.14.0
Disabled:
  - audioplayer: 3.7.0 (installed 3.7.0)
  - bookmarks: 16.0.1 (installed 16.0.1)
  - contactsinteraction: 1.13.1 (installed 1.9.0)
  - encryption: 2.20.0 (installed 2.16.0)
  - external: 7.0.0 (installed 7.0.0)
  - files_external: 1.24.0 (installed 1.19.0)
  - files_photospheres: 1.32.0 (installed 1.32.0)
  - firstrunwizard: 5.0.0-dev.0 (installed 4.0.0)
  - google_synchronization: 4.1.0 (installed 4.1.0)
  - googledocsredirect: 1.0.10 (installed 1.0.10)
  - group_everyone: 0.1.18 (installed 0.1.18)
  - integration_github: 3.2.2 (installed 3.2.2)
  - issuetemplate: 0.7.0 (installed 0.7.0)
  - maps: 1.6.0 (installed 1.6.0)
  - sentry: 8.17.0 (installed 8.17.0)
  - sharelisting: 1.3.0 (installed 1.3.0)
  - support: 4.0.0-dev.0 (installed 1.10.0)
  - survey_client: 4.0.0-dev.0 (installed 2.0.0)
  - systemtags: 1.22.0 (installed 1.17.0)
  - user_ldap: 1.23.0 (installed 1.17.0)
  - user_status: 1.12.0 (installed 1.8.1)
  - webhook_listeners: 1.3.0 (installed 1.1.0-dev)

[SimJoSt]

@schiessle thank you for the offer. Check my last comment and see, if you can get the same information from your Nextcloud instance as well.

Here is a template to put them into a comment:

<details><summary>Nextcloud config</summary>
<p>

Command used: `occ config:list system`
(redacted additional config values)

```json
Nextcloud config goes here
```

</p>
</details> 

<details><summary>App list</summary>
<p>

Command used: `occ app:list`

```
app list goes here
```

</p>
</details> 

[tvieten]

Hi everyone, here's my config. Hope it helps!

Nextcloud config

Command used: occ config:list system
(redacted additional config values)

{
    "system": {
        "instanceid": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
        "passwordsalt": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
        "secret": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
        "trusted_domains": [
            "192.168.178.116",
            "xx.xx.xx.xx",
            "10.10.50.10"
        ],
        "trusted_proxies": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
        "datadirectory": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
        "dbtype": "mysql",
        "version": "32.0.5.0",
        "overwrite.cli.url": "https:\/\/xx.xx.xx.xx",
        "dbname": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
        "dbhost": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
        "dbport": "",
        "dbtableprefix": "oc_",
        "mysql.utf8mb4": true,
        "dbuser": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
        "dbpassword": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
        "installed": true,
        "activity_expire_days": 14,
        "allow_local_remote_servers": true,
        "auth.bruteforce.protection.enabled": true,
        "forbidden_filenames": [
            ".htaccess",
            "Thumbs.db",
            "thumbs.db"
        ],
        "cron_log": true,
        "default_phone_region": "DE",
        "enable_previews": true,
        "enabledPreviewProviders": [
            "OC\\Preview\\PNG",
            "OC\\Preview\\JPEG",
            "OC\\Preview\\GIF",
            "OC\\Preview\\BMP",
            "OC\\Preview\\XBitmap",
            "OC\\Preview\\Movie",
            "OC\\Preview\\PDF",
            "OC\\Preview\\MP3",
            "OC\\Preview\\TXT",
            "OC\\Preview\\MarkDown",
            "OC\\Preview\\HEIC",
            "OC\\Preview\\Movie",
            "OC\\Preview\\MKV",
            "OC\\Preview\\MP4",
            "OC\\Preview\\AVI"
        ],
        "filesystem_check_changes": 0,
        "filelocking.enabled": "true",
        "htaccess.RewriteBase": "\/",
        "integrity.check.disabled": false,
        "knowledgebaseenabled": false,
        "log_rotate_size": "104857600",
        "logfile": "\/var\/log\/nextcloud\/nextcloud.log",
        "loglevel": 3,
        "logtimezone": "Europe\/Berlin",
        "memcache.local": "\\OC\\Memcache\\APCu",
        "memcache.locking": "\\OC\\Memcache\\Redis",
        "overwriteprotocol": "https",
        "preview_max_x": 1024,
        "preview_max_y": 768,
        "preview_max_scale_factor": 1,
        "profile.enabled": false,
        "redis": {
            "host": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
            "port": 0,
            "password": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
            "timeout": 0.5,
            "dbindex": 1
        },
        "quota_include_external_storage": false,
        "share_folder": "\/Freigaben",
        "skeletondirectory": "",
        "trashbin_retention_obligation": "auto, 7",
        "maintenance_window_start": 1,
        "maintenance": false,
        "twofactor_enforced": "true",
        "twofactor_enforced_groups": [],
        "twofactor_enforced_excluded_groups": [],
        "mail_smtpmode": "smtp",
        "mail_smtpsecure": "ssl",
        "mail_sendmailmode": "smtp",
        "mail_from_address": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
        "mail_domain": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
        "mail_smtphost": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
        "mail_smtpport": "465",
        "mail_smtpauth": true,
        "mail_smtpname": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
        "mail_smtppassword": "***REMOVED SENSITIVE VALUE***",
        "overwritehost": "xx.xx.xx.xx",
        "remember_login_cookie_lifetime": 1296000,
        "versions_retention_obligation": "auto, 365",
        "simpleSignUpLink.shown": false,
        "upgrade.disable-web": true,
        "log.condition": {
            "apps": [
                "admin_audit"
            ]
        },
        "session_lifetime": 86400,
        "session_keepalive": true,
        "auto_logout": false,
        "app_install_overwrite": []
    }
}

App list

Command used: occ app:list

Enabled:
  - activity: 5.0.0-dev.0
  - admin_audit: 1.22.0
  - app_api: 32.0.0
  - bruteforcesettings: 5.0.0-dev.0
  - calendar: 6.1.5
  - circles: 32.0.0
  - cloud_federation_api: 1.16.0
  - comments: 1.22.0
  - contacts: 8.2.1
  - contactsinteraction: 1.13.1
  - dashboard: 7.12.0
  - dav: 1.34.2
  - external: 7.0.0
  - federatedfilesharing: 1.22.0
  - federation: 1.22.0
  - files: 2.4.0
  - files_antivirus: 6.1.0
  - files_downloadlimit: 5.0.0-dev.0
  - files_pdfviewer: 5.0.0-dev.0
  - files_reminders: 1.5.0
  - files_sharing: 1.24.1
  - files_trashbin: 1.22.0
  - files_versions: 1.25.0
  - groupfolders: 20.1.7
  - integration_giphy: 2.2.0
  - integration_paperless: 1.0.8
  - logreader: 5.0.0-dev.0
  - lookup_server_connector: 1.20.0
  - mail: 5.6.7
  - news: 27.2.0
  - nextcloud_announcements: 4.0.0-dev.0
  - notes: 4.12.4
  - notifications: 5.0.0-dev.0
  - oauth2: 1.20.0
  - password_policy: 4.0.0-dev.0
  - photos: 5.0.0-dev.1
  - privacy: 4.0.0-dev.0
  - profile: 1.1.0
  - provisioning_api: 1.22.0
  - recommendations: 5.0.0-dev.0
  - related_resources: 3.0.0-dev.0
  - richdocuments: 9.0.2
  - serverinfo: 4.0.0-dev.0
  - settings: 1.15.1
  - sharebymail: 1.22.0
  - spreed: 22.0.8
  - support: 4.0.0-dev.0
  - systemtags: 1.22.0
  - tasks: 0.17.1
  - text: 6.0.1
  - theming: 2.7.0
  - twofactor_backupcodes: 1.21.0
  - twofactor_nextcloud_notification: 6.0.0-dev.0
  - twofactor_totp: 14.0.0
  - updatenotification: 1.22.0
  - user_oidc: 8.3.0
  - user_status: 1.12.0
  - viewer: 5.0.0-dev.0
  - weather_status: 1.12.0
  - webhook_listeners: 1.3.0
  - workflowengine: 2.14.0
Disabled:
  - bookmarks: 16.0.1 (installed 16.0.1)
  - encryption: 2.20.0
  - files_external: 1.24.1
  - firstrunwizard: 5.0.0-dev.0 (installed 4.0.0)
  - notify_push: 1.3.0 (installed 1.3.0)
  - survey_client: 4.0.0-dev.0 (installed 3.0.0)
  - suspicious_login: 10.0.0-dev.0
  - user_ldap: 1.23.0