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g_algebra of FreeAlgebra is commutative #38047

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Steps To Reproduce

R.<x,y,z> = FreeAlgebra(QQ, 3)
P=R.g_algebra(relations={},order='lex')
P.inject_variables() #makes variables x,y,z available to this method
P.is_commutative()
print([x*y-y*x,x*z-z*x,y*z-z*y])

Here is the version. I'm running it on cocalc.
'SageMath version 10.3, Release Date: 2024-03-19'

Expected Behavior

Well, This is suppose to be a noncommutative ring, yet the commutators of the free variables are zero.

Actual Behavior

It's commutative.

Additional Information

It could be that relations={} is imposed incorrectly.

Here is the documentation I was using:
https://doc.sagemath.org/pdf/en/reference/noncommutative_polynomial_rings/noncommutative_polynomial_rings.pdf#page83

The g_algebra function isn't well documented so I can't tell. As far as I can tell it has something to do with this package: https://galgebra.readthedocs.io/en/latest/tutorials/algebra.html

It seems poorly named to me.

I didn't open up the source.

This seems to be related to some other issues related to the incompleteness of the FreeAlgebras.

#26173
#26911
#31446

I want to implement this:
Green-NoncommutativeGroebnerBasesAndProjectiveResolutions.pdf

I would be happy to work within just FreeAlgebra to implement the Groebner basis algorithm, but there isn't support for monomials in the FreeAlgebra rings it seems. Maybe I am wrong but without passing to the g_algebra it seems you can't pick two monomials and see if one divides another. Note that if m and n are monomials in a noncommutative ring we have m divides n if and only if there exists monomials p and q such that n = pmq.

Environment

- **OS**:Cocalc, May 21, 2024
- **Sage Version**:'SageMath version 10.3, Release Date: 2024-03-19'

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  • I have searched the existing issues for a bug report that matches the one I want to file, without success.
  • I have read the documentation and troubleshoot guide

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